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I’ve had this question maybe a thousand times: “Which camera is the best camera?”
And it’s always kinda hard to give a straight answer.
The thing is, there are simply SO many different cameras out there, and each one of them pretty much has it’s own purpose. For example, some cameras are more appropriate for TV, while others are more appropriate for personal home videos. Etc, etc, etc…
So, today I talk about two fantastic little cameras that do a GREAT job *for their intended purpose*! It’s the Kodak Zi8 Vs Flip!
Maybe you’ve had some experience with one or both of these two cameras and you can share some of your ideas with the rest of us?
Looking forward to hear from you!
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Gideon Shalwick
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Hi, Gideon Shalwick here…
One of the questions I get most often is “What camera to use for online video?”. Well there is a simple answer to that. It really depends on what you trying to achieve online.
There are basically a million different answers or a million different question when it comes to cameras and there are so many cameras to choose from and it’s actually quite daunting. What I tried to do is I tried it to really make it simple.
I teach a method called Rapid Video Blogging which allows you to create videos super fast and help you get results rapidly that’s where the rapid comes from.
There are 2 cameras in particular that is at the top of my list for rapidly creating videos and it’s for particular kind of video. The 2 cameras that I’m talking about are the Flip Ultra HD camera and also the Kodak Zi8.
They’re very similar in terms of performance but I want to do a quick review of both of them and compare the 2 so you could see the difference between them and also my preferences and maybe you got your own preferences too.
I just want to say that these cameras are good for what they are being used for, and that is for creating videos rapidly for the internet. So they are not used for creating hollywood type videos, they are not used for creating huge long, hour long, 2 hour long, 3 hour long videos. They are great for those short quick clips on YouTube and for getting nice and clear quality videos and getting them up really quickly.
So without further adou, let me do a quick review for these two cameras so that you can get the feel for the differences between them.
First thing I want to talk about is the video quality. For both of them I think they perform actually quite similar. The Flip Ultra HD records is 720p which is great for the internet, in fact that is HD for YouTube and the Kodak Zi8 records in 720p as well but you do have the option to go up to 1080p as well. So in terms of size the Kodak wins but in terms of actual video quality when you play back on the internet it’s pretty similar there’s not too much difference between the two. So that’s in terms of video quality, I think they are pretty much equal in that sense.
The second thing I want to look out is the sound quality of the two cameras and in that department I think the Kodak wins and the reason for that is because it has a little external microphone jack that you can plug a power microphone for example. That’s really handy if you are a little bit further away from the camera and you still want to have a good sound.
Of course the Flip camera does not have an external mic jack. So you kind of stuck with the sound that you get from the camera but there is a fix. What I normally do is I use an external voice recorder. I plug a little power microphone into that and I record the sound separately.
One of my favorites is the Edirol voice recorder from Roland and it does a fantastic job, it’s quite expensive about 500 bucks so it’s not a great entry level product. But there’s plenty of other voice recorders around that can do a very similar job. So I record that separately and just match up the sound afterwards during the editing and that fixes the sound for the Flip.
So the Kodak wins there but you can fix the flip with another voice recording device.
What about file format and the storage of the two cameras. Well the Flip camera has it’s little flip thing over there so it’s very easy to get the files to your computer. It records in mp4 format and that works on both pc and mac. It’s great format for editng on most editing programs and it pretty much just works in most applications. The Kodak records in a MOV format and it does have some space to record on the camera itself but mostly you record on an SD drive with SD card, like this over here. You can go upto 32 gigabytes with that. So that’s pretty cool, it will give you a little more option to record longer files if you want to and more footage.
Also it has it’s old USB thing to plug in to your computer. It’s not as nice as the Flip camera to use, not as easy but it does give you that extra features as well. The Flip on the other hand only records upto 8 gigabytes as a maximum and it just records straight on the camera so you don’t have the option of the SD card. So in that department I think the Kodak is winner there if that’s important to you. For my situation, I don’t really care cause most of my videos are only about 10 minutes long in any case so I don’t need to record really long videos or a lot of videos and seriously 2 hours is long enough to record for me on this little camera.
What about ease of use? How easy to use the 2 different cameras? Well both of them are actually really easy to use but in terms of winning in my mind at least, I think the Flip takes the prize. There are only 4 buttons in total on the camera and the main one is the big red one for recording, starting and stopping. You can also play back and delete and there is an On/OFF switch as well and of course the navigation buttons too. But it’s really really simple to use, It’s very straightforward. Almost impossible to do something wrong with this camera it’s really just point and shoot you just turned it on press the record and your ready to go.
With the Kodak on the hand, it’s little bit more complicated. It has a whole bunch more features to confuse you but also to give you extra functionality. But it’s not as easy to use, it got a whole bunch of buttons on the back. It takes a little bit of time to figure out what are all the buttons do. It’s not a big deal if you like extra features then Kodak is a nice option for that sort of thing. But in my view, in terms of ease of use, the Flip takes the price for that.
Finally I want to talk about the look and feel for the camera, which may not be as important for you but for me it is. There’s one thing about the Flip that I really like and that is it has a flat bottom surface. They both have a little area where you can screw that into a tripod which is pretty cool. The problem with the Kodak though, it doesn’t have a flat bottom so you can’t stand it up on a table or something if you don’t have a tripod with the Flip you can. The Flip in terms of design, for me is much better fit. It fits really nicely into your hands. It got nice rounded corners, it’s just the right size for me that’s why I don’t like the mino as well but the Flip camera is great in terms of just the way it looks and feels.
The Kodak once again is not as user friendly in terms of flat surface there and it’s quite thin and I think it’s easy to drop. That’s maybe a subjective thing and you might think differently but that’s how I perceived the difference between the two.
There’s one more thing that I want to talk about that is quite important and that is the battery use or the power for the two different devices. For the Flip Ultra HD, I really love that you can have a rechargeable battery pack that’s 2 AA size batteries. What that means is, yes you can recharge those ones but you can also use normal AA batteries when those run out of juice. That’s very cool specially if you’re out on the field, and your recording and you run out of battery power just take a few AA batteries with you and replace them and your ready to go again. The Kodak on the other hand comes with a rechargeable battery that is not your standard sizes. So that’s a little bit of pain if you run out of power you ought to need the exact one of those ones or your stuck.
I think they are quite cheap to replace anyway but it’s still not nice as AA size batteries that you can get with the Flip. And that’s another reason why I recommend the Flip Ultra HD as oppose to the Flip mino because you have that nice option with the batteries.
Overall you might guess that my choice is the Flip Ultra HD camera and you know they are basically quite similar. I mean there’s not too much difference in terms of performance, in terms of ease of use, in terms of recording and getting the files into your computer and editing it. One thing I must say about the Kodak that I just noticed with one of my members is that it doesn’t work straight on PC with Sony Vegas. You first need to convert the files into different format before you can do the editing properly on Sony Vegas and that’s a bit of a pain because it adds the extra step on the process whereas the FLip it just works straight off.
So that’s a quick review, a quick comparison between a Flip Ultra HD and the Kodak Zi8 . Once again they are both great cameras, they both do a really fantastic job for you. Bottomline for me it’s the FLip Ultra HD it’s just because there’s a number of things that I prefer and it’s super simple to use.
I hope you found that a useful review of the two little cameras and I hope that it makes easier for you to decide between the two cameras or whether any of them is appropriate on what you want to do online.
I’ve just released a new report called Rapid Video Blogging where it goes to my whole method that I used for creating videos rapidly, getting views on YouTube, driving those people back to my website, building my email list and in the end making a 6 figure income. If you want to get access to this report it’s totally free just go to RapidVideoBlogging.com you can download your own free copy there at no charge.
Thanks for watching and I’ll see you inside the next video.
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Tagged as: Flip Ultra HD, Flip Ultra HD review, Flip Ultra HD vs Kodak Zi8, Kodak Zi8, Kodak Zi8 review
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[..YouTube..] great vid
[..YouTube..] nice =)) how can i find you you on Facebook?
[..YouTube..] wot about prices?????????
Good point – both cameras area around A$200 to A$250.
But I am sure you can pick them up for a lot cheaper from Amazon or Ebay perhaps.
Gideon
[..YouTube..] Hi Gideon,
Thanks for the great review. 2 thins that I would like to mention is a) with the Kodak Zi8, you don;t need to use the USB port to dowlnload your files. Downloading is easily accomplished by simply plugging your HD card into a card reader which you can get free when you buy certain HD cards. Secondly, I I use Sony Vegas 10 for editing and have not experienced any problems integrating the two. All in all your videos are very informative and the type camera is just a personal choice.
Hi can you please advise re the Sony Vegas 10 for editing, is that something separate to purchase, is it a pro gramme. Just investigating which camera to buy, many thanks
Hi Bev
I normally recommend Sony Vegas Studio HD – this is a software program that you use on your PC for editing your videos.
If you’re on a Mac, you can either use iMovie or ScreenFlow.
Gideon
[..YouTube..] did you receive any of these products free in return for doing this video?
Nope – I just like providing value to my audience, because I know that value will be returned to me at some point in the future
Gideon
[..YouTube..] Thanks for your general views on that both cameras. Whatever, O do agree with your principle point on Vlog is much important nowadays.
[..YouTube..] @mantic59 nope! just doing it for the love of it
[..YouTube..] Nice review Gideon ! I also use Sony Vegas, so the Flip ultra HD would be best for me too….Say, how’s business ?
Nice vid Gideon. I got the ZI8 and loooove it.
very informative! Thanks Gideon
I just bought the Kodak and I think it beats the Flip hands down! The only downside is that you always have to hold it or use a tripod, where as the flip can stand on its own.
Everything else is better on the Kodak IMO
Greetings Gideon,
Which camera did you use to create this review video?
Hrvoje
Hey Hrvoje
I used a camera that I would not recommend for beginners because it has a pretty steep learning curve and is a lot more complicated to operate than cameras like the Flip Ultra HD and the Kodak Zi8.
But the camera I used was the Canon T2i 550D (Rebel) with a 1.8 50mm lens (that’s how I got the fuzzy background.
The camera is also not as affordable as the Flip and the Kodak.
It has some other drawbacks too – for example, it can only record for 12 minutes max.
But if you have the money, the patience and can handle the 12 minute limit, it can work really well.
And for the sound, I used an Edirol voice recorder and an external lapel microphone.
Gideon
Weird, my personal details cannot save automatically in comment column, I have to key-in everytime, unlike others’ WordPress
So, u mean every 12minutes you have to start a new clip and then merge them together?
Correct.
Is there any other way to get around the 12 min recording besides having to stop.
Also, if I may ask how much did you buy the 550 for?
Thanks.
AFTAB.
Hey AFTAB
There is no way of getting around the 12 min recording limit that I am aware of. But for short YouTube videos this is not an issue for me. Even for longer videos, I just make sure I use breaks often. And when you have a remote control, this is achieved really easy, because you just press stop, and start again. And then you just add it all during editing. Pretty seamless
And I got my T2i for around $1,500 (Australian) which included 2 kit lenses.
Gideon
Hi,
Consider a “tether” (firewire cable) to send the vdo directly to your hard drive from the Canon.
Shooting/syncing wild sound with a digital recorder is easy and provides better audio than an on-camera mic.
I recommend a SONY ICD-BX700 which has an efficient user interface similar to the Flip Ultra HD.
BTW: Your lighting is excellent. People forget how important the lighting is. You have a nice backlight/hairlight to separate you from the background in addition to a shallow depth-of-field.
Hey Gideon!
Good work.
What’s the camera you’re using for this actual video? Are you using an external mic – and if so, which?
Thanks!
Dave
See my reply above to Hrvoje…
Hi Gideon, one question here:
What camera you use to record this video itself? I find it very clear even I extend it to play full screen.
Besides, you produce into what format? Is it mp4?
Hey kiatic
See my reply to Hrvoje above…
Gideon
I like the flip with the ease of use and that is why I bought one a week ago. I haven’t found the best way to upload to YouTube, but I am using the flip software. Once it is done uploading and processing then I am changing all of the fields for the video.
I have a windows 7 computer that I installed Live Movie Maker and a MAC with IMOVIE HD. I am still experimenting on what to use.
Thanks Greg Ellison
Many people complain about Flip Ultra HD battery problems. What is your experience?
For the shorter videos that I create for YouTube, it’s no issue at all for me. And besides, you can use normal AA batteries of your rechargeable ones are kaput!
Gideon
Hi Gideon, and thanks for this review.
The obvious question:
which camera do you use for videos like the one I have just watched?
I seem to remember you use a Canon or Nikon or am I wrong?
I am not an expert of digital stuff nor computers but I think that if one is serious about blogging professionally and uses videos, they should go for very good quality at some stage. I saw many comparative test footage with the the two cameras but they are no more than ok. These two machines you’ve reviewed could be a great way to start and practice but then quality should dictate the choice. I think if spending 3 times more gives you, say, AT LEAST 3 times better quality (I know, difficult to quantify, but it is just an example), it is worth going for it. And believe me, I’m not rich at all, but those good quality videos in your blog will be there to stay and will make a difference that in the long term will pay off dividends. Just my opinion and still very undecided which one to choose.
Kind regards
Daniele
Hey Daniele
See my reply to Hrvoje above…
Gideon
Don’t see a lot of reviews in the comments. I’m not too familiar with the Kodak camera, but I do own the Flip Ultra… It’s a good camera, for the imagery, and if you upload directly to YouTube, it recognizes the files as being HD. The audio is good, but if you are more than 2 feet away from the camera, then you know the audio isn’t going to be of professional grade, so depending on what you use the camera for, it may not be appropriate.
Since I’m at work, I actually haven’t seen your video, yet, but, I know the Zi8 has an external jack for audio, and that is priceless for seemingly professional audio (if you use it correctly)…
Good stuff, good stuff here, I’m enjoying it very much…
Matt
Thanks Gideon…I would say that having the external microphone plug in is a huge bonus for the Kodak.
It’s one of the rare model out there offering that handy feature.
I think this is something a newbie would rather have, versus recording the sound separately?
And Sound for me is almost as important as the image in a video. You might have crappy image sometimes, but if the sound is good, it comes across properly with professionalism.
Thanks again! Keep on the great work!
Good point Christian
I agree about being able to plug in a microphone being easier for newbies.
But it’s not a bad skill to develop to be able to record the audio separately in any case.
Thanks for the feedback!
Gideon
Hey Gideon,
Great review of two great looking cameras.
I have a question though – how do you rate the quality of the iPhone 4 for online HD video?
Keith
Hey Keith,
I just got my hands on an iPhone 4 and just love the HD video on it. You can check out a video post that I recently created, edited, and uploaded in HD to YouTube all directly on the iPhone 4:
http://www.easyonlinevideotips.com/rapid-video-blogging-iphone-4/
Gideon has checked it out…I think the title of my post caught his attention
Hi Gideon, one thing you didnt touch one,and i bought the Kodak,with all the accesories,extra battery,down to the car charger, all under 150.dollars on sale at amazon,,But that also included the REMOTE CONTROL,, i was ready to go flip,but no car charger,and if you forget and stop n a 7-11 and the AA batteries,You need to take a 2nd Mortage!!!!!!!!,not like a Home depot or walmart,, But the remote sold me!!!!!!!! and the flip would of been 30 bucks more,no external Mike, !!!!!! Remote,and Both charging,anf rhe 3 year waretee,and hard carring case,Kodak really stepped up to the plate!!!!! Thanks for all the great Tips!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flip had me till the remote!!!!!! Thanks again!!!!!!!,Jack
Hey Gideon: Thanks for the great review! Thought I’d add my 2-cents since I’ve had a Kodak Zi8 for about a month now, and I’m actually using it as part of your Rapid Video Blogging Program (which, by the way, is an awesome program).
First off, I totally agree with some of the downsides of the Kodak Zi8 you mentioned, especially that it doesn’t use off-the-shelf batteries. However, one reason I purchased the camera (and this is simply a difference in how you and I use it) was because it took an SD card. I find it easier to pull out the card and insert it into my card reader to copy over clips, and in the field (for family movies), it’s nice having an extra chip in my pocket if I’m shooting 1080p and run out of space.
Also, I’m using Sony Vegas Pro 8.1 (haven’t upgraded to 9.0 yet), and have no issues in pulling in the native MOV files that come from the camera. Perhaps it’s because I also have Quicktime Pro installed??? Not sure…
Anyway, I’m very happy with the Zi8, but frankly, what I took away from your review was that both cameras get the job done, and are really very similar.
Finally… let me mention one issue I have, and ask if the Flip HD also has issues with this. In SOME of my videos, taken indoor with inexpensive lighting (hard ware store pan lights), I’ve noticed that when I start the camera and then enter the scene to record a “rapid blog”, the Automatic Face Detection feature will find my face, and change the exposure. That’s fine, but when I turn my head, it must “re-find” something else in the scene, and the exposure darkens briefly, and then brightens up again. In turning the AFD off, the exposure tends to be “over-exposed” unless I really play with the lights.
I’ve done different things with the lights to help compensate for this, but it does cause issues. Does the Flip HD have any similar issues that you have seen?
Thanks Gideon… again, for anyone who hasn’t taken any of his programs, you’re missing out!!!!
[..YouTube..] I have wondered about these two cameras for a while. thanks!!!
Great review Gideon, you definitely provide a lot of value in this review. Definitely answers the question of which cameras to use. Do you use multiple cameras in this shoot?
Hi Gideon,
When recording your audio separately how do you sync the audio and video tracks accurately?. I’ve tried to do this but it seems extremly fiddly compared to using an external microphone in the first place.
Thanks
Simon
If you have the right tools and software, it’s actually really easy.
Yes, it does require a bit of extra work, but the end result can be really good.
But yes, of course, if you can just use a microphone that’s plugged in, that does make it a lot easier.
Gideon
Gideon uses a Canon 550D DSLR for many of his videos. The DSLR’s lenses provide excellent control over depth of field giving sharp focus on the person with the soft out-of-focus background. It also has an external mic input and an 18mp sensor and FullHD recording. In simple terms…quality (and it shows).
Good summary of what I’m using Bernard.
I’d like to add also that the Canon T2i 550D, while a fantastic camera, take quite a bit of getting used to. It’s definitely note a camera for beginners. That’s what make the Flip Ultra HD and Kodak Zi8 cameras such great cameras for people just starting out – so easy to use!
Gideon Shalwick
The latest version (10) of Vegas Movie Studio DOES process Zi8 files without converting them. My guess is that the next version of Sony Vegas Pro will too.
For me, the deal-breaker on these cameras is the external mic jack on the Zi8. It’s also nice to have the option of additional memory cards. The Zi8 also has image stabilization; however, since I only use the camera on a tripod for blog videos, either camera would work for me.
Thanks for the great review!
William
Hey Gideon,
I own the Kodak Zi8. It’s a great camera for the price, but needs a lot of light to produce really sharp images. Testing it indoor I have found that the video looked a little blurry after uploading to youtube. Switching to HD mode in the youtube player did help to sharpen up the picture a bit.
Having an external mic jack is a great plus. I bought an inexpensive clip-on mic, the Audio-Technica ATR 3350. Sound quality is good, however it only records in mono, meaning that sound only comes from one speaker when watching the recorded video. The cure for this is to use an editting software that can duplicate channels or create a mono audio output (I use Pinnacle Studio 12 Ultimate for this). Or you can by a cheap stereo to mono jack adapter.
See:
http://getseen.ning.com/profiles/blogs/convert-mono-to-stereo-for
All in all, great little cam, perfect for starting video blogging, just don’t expect crystal clear images especially in a less lit environment.
Hey Gideon,
Great video. I have a Flip ULTRA HD and love it for all the reasons recommended. The battery life is a drawback, but as you pointed out can be remedied easily.
A bigger quality issue was with the audio, as many of your viewers have mentioned. My fix for this is a Sony ICD-UX71 voice recorder (under $75) and your choice of lapel mics (I use a Sony stereo condenser mic)…. works great when synced together.
all the best… Chris
[..YouTube..] Thanks for the review!
Hey Gideon,
I have de Flip Mino HD and really I enjoy the simplicity and the power of this camera.
For quick video to upload on Internet, it’s the top.
I didn’t test it outside yet but I think that it’s unusual to exceed one hour for a film!
Thanks.
Christophe
Hi Gideon
Thanks for the link to this video, really appreciate it. Two new questions 1. what did you use to film this video the flip? 2. How do you achieve the low aprature (blurry background) look? Is that done with the camera or with the editing software?
Hey Jesse – please see my response to Hrvoje earlier…
Gideon
Hi Gideon,
The two cameras are great, personally I have used the Flip before (am an ex owner), however, I changed over to using a Sony Bloggie a little bit ago and havent turned back.
Just wondering what your thoughts are on this camera? Have you had the chance to use one?
No I have not used the Sony Bloggy yet, although I’ve heard some good reviews about it.
My only concern is that it’s Sony, and since I’m on Mac, they don’t go together too well.
But if you’re on PC, then its probably not an issue at all… especially using something like Sony Vegas for editing.
Gideon
[..YouTube..] I started off with the regular (non HD) Flip camera. They are much less expensive since the HD version came out. I use a RCA digital voice recorder I paid less than $40 for. It has a microphone input, records in wave format, and has a pop out USB connection. It’s a step down from what you have but you can still upload in HD with a couple editing tricks.
I think the Kodak is the BEST videocamera. That being said, I ended up with a refurbished Sony Webbie, because it’s the ONLY one that lets you see how you’re framed in the video! It has a viewing screen that “flips” while the others don’t. Wish they did.
Any advice on how to be a “one-man” show with the other cameras?
Thanks,
Adam
Use a big mirror behind the camera so you can see the viewfinder?
I’ve tested this inside the bathroom (hehehe) and it seems to work rather well.
Also, whenever you can get a remote control… that’s a good idea. Makes life a lot easier.
Gideon
Gideon,
I am doing your Video Course (Great Material!!) and ran into the same problem with videos from my Zi8 converting to Sony Vegas. But found a couple of fixes on the net. The thing is that the Zi8 is ding well in the reviews compared to other cameras. Plus I like the mic jack which lowers initial investment. But we will see.
Mark
[..YouTube..] Nice comparison, Gideon.
I’m glad that you finally released RVB when you did, since I’d just gotten a cheap RCA voice recorder anyway and your method of syncing them up has *vastly* improved the sound quality on my videos. Add in some of your recording and setup tips from the course and all is well.
I’m still using my flip mino (HD came out a week after I purchased it) but I was chatting with a friend last week that’s a sound engineer and he’s going to lend me his mino HD to try out.
Hey Gideon, nice review.
What camera did you use for the review video?
Thanks,
Frank
Hey Frank – see my reply to Hrvoje above…
Nice review Gideon.
I have the Flip HD myself and have found it super simple to use and great quality; the only feature I wish it had is the external mike socket.
My website partner and I record a weekly podcast from our separate locations. We use Skype to talk to each other and webcams to record ourselves. We’re always looking for ways to increase our production quality and have been considering testing with our Flips. What has us stumped, however, is how to communicate via Skype while recording the video on an external camera. What are we overlooking?
Hey Mel
Unfortunately you can’t turn the Flip into a webcam – that would have been a pretty cool feature.
Maybe Flip will release a version that can actually do this. But for now, you are stuck with cameras that can stream audio (like all webcams for example).
Gideon
Do you know if there’s a remote control available for the Flip?
Not that I am aware of Vegan Diaries! But that would have been a really cool thing to have!
Gideon
Thanks for your review. I really enjoyed it.
I recently purchased the Kodak Zi8 and I absolutely love it. I think it is a lot better than the Flip camera, because of the following
- it has a remote controller
- fantastic image stabilisation so you can record in the car
- ability to connect an external microphone, which is great as you don’t have to fiddle with recording your voice separately
- you can take the SD card out and put it directly into your computer or TV card slot
- great camera for holidays as it is small but you can record upto 10 hrs of HD video (as it has removable SD card) so you don’t have to worry about transferring your clips onto some storage device
- you can recorded in 720 HD not only at 30 fps but also at 60fps which is really good for fast moving objects like sport, kids playing etc
- it has ability to record in 1080 which is true HD
- I bought a spare battery for $5 on ebay that works perfectly
- it’s got a car charger
- small foldable table-top tripod was included for standing it up
- paid AUD$230 (excluding the SDHC card) which is a steal for such a versatile little camera
By the way I absolutely loved your Rapid Video Blogging Report!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here’s a review of the zi8 with tests in dark lighting, with motion, an external mic and so on.
http://craig-mcgill.com/2010/01/kodak-zi8-review-a-videocamera-for-parents/
Very educational Gideon. This video has started to give me some focus in purchasing a new camera. Thanks 1,000,000
I personally like the Creative Vado better than Zi or Flip. It has audio in and much better picture (good skin tone balance in high and low light situations). Also has an underwater case accessory which is just plain fun.
I agree with you Thom. I have the Vado HD Generation 1 and just love it. It has amazing video quality and it also great in low light conditions.
Lekker Bru!
Great review Gideon…You share awesome information! I love the quality of the video on this page as well. Planning to implement much more video in the future and I really appreciate the editing suggestions from the previous reports!
Paul
Geen probleem
Gideon,
Thanks for the informative video. I am not an expert in audio video equipment but very enthusiastic to keep up with the digital technology development. How about Sony bloggie? Have you or anyone in the forum had an experience with it? Sony Bloggie CM5 looks interesting with swivel LCD but unfortunately record only mono audio.
I also notice that you said you use Roland voice recorder which costs 500 bucks. Why not just buy an HD vid cam like Sony HDR CX110 as well which cost less than 500 bucks? Just my 2 cents ….
Hey Widodo
Ryan T Malone commented about the Sony Bloggie above – check it out…
I use the voice recorder because it gives me extra flexibility especially during action shots where there is a lot of movement.
And the I don’t like using the bigger cameras as much because they are so “slow” compared to smaller cams like the Flip and Kodak.
Gideon
Guys, do you agree that kodak should employ Jack Connors FULL TIME??See his post n.21, AWESOME!!
Daniele, Thank You for the Compliment, But I have a Great Boss,(ME),LOL, Just call it like i see em, one thing i did forget to add that ive been playing,is the remote, as ive read,is only supposed to work from one side,NOPE!, works on either side of the camera!,with makes it even BETTER!,,Thanks again, If this economy doesnt pick up,sure,Ill take the job,and Im not lieing,
about the camera,or the economy!,Jack
I use an Olympus stylus tough for my hd videos and love it…plus, it can go underwater (very cool for my travel pieces)…only complaint is the battery runs out so quickly.
[..YouTube..] @ericsurf6 Hey Eric – business is going GREAT! Actually, I was thinking about you the other day… and that you might enjoy my latest report (Rapid Video Blogging) – it could help leverage your following on YouTube tremendously and help you make quite a bit more money in the process. Have you met up with Jay Jay yet?
Hey Gideon,
Thanks for the post. I do have one question about resources though.
Where did you get the template for your pop-over opt-in form? Or did you get it specially made for you?
Thanks!
Be More,
Andy Iskandar
Hey Andy
I use Michael Dunlop’s Popup Domination Plugin – it really rocks! Has helped me increase my optins A LOT!
You can get it here:
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Also make sure you read my Rapid Video Blogging report where I explain why you should use it. You can get a free copy of my report here:
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Gideon
Hi Gideon and all,
I wish this came out sooner because I pulled the trigger and bought the Flip HD on Amazon right after your first video. Would have been nice to check out the Kodak; yes, the lack of a microphone jack concerns me but we’ll see.
One thing about the Flip I noticed is that, due to its design it’s easy to smudge the lens when handling it, especially if you take it out of its carrying case so be careful not to do this.
Hi Gideon,
I use a Zoom Q3 which has a 3 point mount on the base, High quality stereo sound recording (Selectable), uses AA batteries either rechargeable or alkaline, has an SD card slot, a built in USB cable and comes complete with editing and sharing software. You can record your video and within minutes it will be uploaded to Youtube. It actually records in MP4 format but if you use “Any Video Converter” available as freeware, you can convert it to almost anything. The trouble I have and I suspect others do to is, if you post it on a remote server for viewing on your own website in order to give you quick download/viewing speed when your connection is not that fast (Like most of rural UK), you have to convert it to FLV or another compressed format so really it does not matter what quality you record at originally, by the time the viewing public see it, it’s lost some quality.
Like others have asked, I would like to know what this video was recorded using but also software, format, storage solution and whether the part time blogger with limited time and resource could match your high quality.
Hey Gideon
How about an entry level camera that has a flip screen so that you can see yourself while making your videos.
Any preferences? Or you don’t really find it a useful feature when it’s just you and the camera (no extra camera person)
Aaron
Yeah, the Flip Ultra HD and Kodak Zi8 would have ROCKED even more if they had the a flip screen as well.
I’m currently looking at getting a little diy “periscope” made so that I can actually see the viewfinder from the opposite angle.
I just notice the Canon has brought on a DSLR (similar to my T2i) that has a flip screen. But that’s really not entry level.
I can’t actually think of any nice entry level video cameras with a flip screen!
Hmmm… market opportunity spotted!
Gideon
Thanks Gideon! I use the Flip and really like it, just wish it had an external mic because sometimes when I shoot outdoors it’s hard to hear me over the background noise or because I’m far away (I shoot fitness vids so often need my whole body!).
may have to check out the Kodak simply to plug in a mic!
And now, just to make our decision a little harder, along comes JVC with a very cool new camera. It seems to have all the necessary features, plus I really like the idea of the touchscreen controls. It’s not available until August 27, but hopefully we’ll hear more about it soon.
There are a few short videos on it here: http://budurl.com/Picsio
Bill. The JVC Picsio GC-FM-2 Pocket VC looks nice but I don’t think it has a connection to an external microphone.
You’re probably right Barbara, simply because they don’t mention it in the specs — I would think that would be something worth listing. HOWEVER…
I did notice that the waterproof version (http://budurl.com/PicsioWP), which is an extra US$20, also includes an “MP3 audio recorder”, but I’m not sure exactly how that is featured.
In the product summary it says:
“There’s a stereo microphone that can be used to record audio as mp3 files.”
I would THINK that means a plug-in microphone, but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
[..YouTube..] I love Kodak Zi8 and I preferred to buy it instead Ultra Flip HD.
Great video and very valid commentary… Also I think the new Creative Vado can be a worthy contender in this category, perhaps?
I’d like your opinion on one other thing though, perhaps in a future video. What do you think of using cell phones to capture video? Some of these phones are carrying optics and memory and other tech quite on par with these Flip type cameras… The upcoming Nokia N8 and N9 (with promised 720p HD video) especially could be quite good for on the go type of filming, at least.
What do you reckon? Are mobile phone cameras good for anything?
Hey Juho
To be honest, I think something like the iPhone 4 has the potential to wipe out the need for even the Flip Ultra HD and Kodak Zi8.
But I am still waiting for my iPhone 4 to arrive to do some proper testing.
And about the Creative Vado – I really liked the Generation 3 one – had some really nice features, and it worked pretty well with my tests!
Yaro uses one of those now…
Gideon
Great presentation Gideon. And informative. It was really a big help.
A side note: I’m sure someone of influence will be contacting you to become a spokes person for a great product in the near future!
Keep up the good work.
LOL! Now that would be interesting!
Gideon
Hi all,
The Kodak was my first video camera and it’s nice if you want a simple mobile HD camera. I also bought it because of the rare mic input. It works fine with proper lighting and a tripod indoors but now I only use it for outdoor shots. The format is great, like a mobile phone. For more serious work I use a Canon HF200, which also has a mic input. I’m really satisfied with that camera, check out my website to check out the result. A cheap condenser mic works fine, no need for any fancy voice recorder and the sync procedure.
Hi Fredrik,
Just had a look at your site. Have you used the Kodak or the Canon for your opening video?
Also did you use a mic because the sound is very clear.
Thanks.
AFTAB
[..YouTube..] Hi Gideon, I bought myself a Kodak ZI8 for that very fact that it had a mic input. I was ready to upgrade to a second, better quality camera but found it difficult to located one with a mic input, and the one’s that did were super expensive. After reading your rapid video blogging report where you use a digital recorder to capture your voice, then sync it to the video, that was the best tip I have seen like….forever.
Keep up the good tips mate. I hope your course is going real well.
Glen
Hi Gideon,
Great video. I personally use and like the Creative Vado HD and it definitely compares well with the Zi8 and the Flip HD.
For those who are interested, I recently put together a short video at the Canadian Auto Show where I film the same scene with my Blackberry Curve 8900, Sony Cybershot Digital Camera, and my Creative Vado HD pocket camera…the results are very interesting:
http://www.easyonlinevideotips.com/digital-hd-video-camera-auto-show/
Cheers,
Hani
Wow 50000 subscribers!!! Keep it up!
Ps. I was number 50000
Congrats Johannes! And thanks for being my 50,000th subscriber!
Gideon
For me, the microphone jack was the deciding factor. I got the Kodak.
I got a wired lav mic and and 8GB SD card and now have a great system for making YouTube videos for less than $150 US. You may be able to find a cheap tabletop tripod at a dollar store to hold it for those that don’t have any tripod. For lights, I got 3-4 clamp-on lights and some daylight compact florescent bulbs at a local hardware store.
Not a big investment and now I have the ability to start making videos. Still learning as I use it.
I have the Zi8 and think it is a great, little camera. One thing to keep in mind with this camera – the file format you’re shooting in is .mov. I have tried to work with these files in Vegas Movie Studio, but the files don’t play nice with VMS. Either you get the video but not the audio, or vice versa. But the .mov files can be edited in Adobe Premiere Elements 8, which is what I use. In fact, I’ve found it easier to work with Elements than it is to work with VMS, in general. VMS may be slightly more robust, but you can do a lot with Elements.
Hi Ken,
Try installing the FFDSHOW free codecs from http://www.ffdshow.info and that should most likely address the missing video issue in Sony Vegas Movie Studio.
For those who haven’t used Vegas Movie Studio HD before, it is an excellent and affordable (around $45 – and comes with a 30 day free trial) video editing package from Sony. I’ve put together a video tutorial a while back that covers the basic features of movie studio…my favourite feature is the ability to upload directly to YouTube after you’re done your editing:
http://www.easyonlinevideotips.com/best-software-for-video-editing-on-a-pc/
Cheers,
Hani
Is Its available in Asian Countries Gideon , i am mostly used my Handycam while I am going to make any video to publish it
Should be Tej – or copies of it at least!
Otherwise, try something like Amazon? (if you can access it of course!)
Gideon
Gideon,
Thanks for all the help on videos. You’re amazing. I’ve started using ScreenFlow and love it for my desktop stuff. One problem, though, when I hook up a camera to it and make the “video” part full screen during editing, the video is pixeled. What to do? If I use a flipcamera, then I can’t upload it into screenflow. So, what camera do you recommend that will have high enough resolution so the video won’t be grainy when I take the video that Screenflow is recording from and make THAT video full screen (over the desktop) during the editing stage of Screenflow?
Matt
Hey Matthew
I teach this inside my Rapid Video Blogging course… it’s a little technical to just explain with text here.
But…
It definitely is very possible to make your videos look great with the Flip and Screenflow.
Have you read my Rapid Video Blogging report yet? I list a couple of examples where I used this solution and the result was pretty much AWESOME! You can download my report for free here:
http://www.RapidVideoBlogging.com
Gideon
Thanks, Gideon! I’ll read it today!! ~ I finally figured out how to import a video from the Flip Camera into Screenflow, but when I exported it so that I could make a DVD with it on iDVD, the quality was disgusting.
Matt
Hey Matthew
Ok great!
For DVD quality videos, you’ll need to make sure you use different export settings. You’ll need to export them to much higher quality than for the web.
Gideon
Ahah! And for an amateur, do you have suggestions as to what those settings might be?
Matt
I would say at least 1,280×720 pixels (720p) or even 1,920×1,080 pixels (1080i/1080p) for the dimensions of the video. (Although for the flip, just the 1,280×720 pixels would be better I think).
And either PAL DV or NTSC DV for the export setting, depending on where you live.
Give that a go…
Gideon
Thanks Gideon, I’ll give that a try and let you know how it goes! You’re the man!
Matt
I use Zi8 for my video blogging. It easy to use and always ready to go.
[..YouTube..] I modified my Zi8 to attach a stepdown ring take a 39mm lens. The Zi8 wins hands down in the zi8 vs FlipHD.
[..YouTube..] Hi Gideon, great review – covered all the bases. What are your thoughts on the Iphone 4? Also, I don’t have an RCA voice recorder but do have a recorder adapter for my ipod – which I guess is another option (although it eats up battery!)
[..YouTube..] Wonderful review, I just bought a flip one 720 and I really love it ;D
What are you using to create the video for this info on which camera to use?
Hey Misty
See my response to Hrvoje earlier…
Gideon
[..YouTube..] ¿cual es mas barata en españa?
What a great dialogue we’ve got going on here about these wonderful 2 cameras. I am impressed with both cameras. I own and use both cameras. I also own and use a variety of other cameras all for different purposes. You really hit the nail on the head when you said the ZI-8 and the Flip are best for ‘rapid’ videos for the web. That is exactly what I use them for, my web vids, tips of the day, etc. I tend to pull out the FlipCam much more often from my pocket because of its ease of use. But… when I know I need good clean audio I plug in my external mic.
[..YouTube..] Hi nice review! I’m a student filmmaker just about to start film school! I already own a decent camera for “PROPER” filmmaking but am looking for a new small camera for little videos like behind the scenes and that kind of thing. Untill your review i have been in favour of the ZI8 but after your review i’m not so sure. I do think though that the bad points about the ZI8 don’t really play much of a negative to me and i definitely prefer having the audio out jack. Thanks for the good review.
They Kodak Zi10 will be released September 20th
http://amzn.to/bje7Vn
Hey Gideon:
Good stuff. Recently joined your list and have been watching some of your vids. I scoured your website, but couldn’t find anything related to the use of external mics and integration w/ videos. Most likely, I wasn’t searching right. Forgive me for posting on this thread so late.
From Chicago,
Will Pareja
Well, you’re pulling in a few hot commenters yourself:) It’s fab. Obviously you’re da man for video (tho I was in that chat on a Fri arvo with Darren where you were admiring his 2 camera set up!) Can’t wait to sort out my book and start a bit of vid blogging. Lovely to meet you last night and see you in the flesh so to speak:)
[..YouTube..] you might want to hold off buying the zi8!
The Kodak Playtouch comes out this month, all the same features but bigger screen, one stop brighter and a headphone jack!
[..YouTube..] MOV is limited to what programs you can edit in. I’ve been using CyberLink which has a pretty neat program Power Director 8. Lots of neat tricks.
Hi Gideon,
I was wondering how you did the blurry looking background in this video with a video camera? I’ve seen others do this same effect with a DSLR camera and adjusting the aperture, etc..
Are you using a DSLR for this type effect? If so, which model?
Thanks very much,
Mark
Yup – DSLR camera with a nifty fifty lens – pretty easy once you have the right equipment
Gideon
[..YouTube..] Gideon – What camera and audio setup did you use to film this video? Looks like an SLR video I like the depth of field and high quality audio!
[..YouTube..] @bradbeckett i second that
[..YouTube..] Haha, I like how you say “Z” like “Zed”
. Great review too. Very professional and high quality!
Hi Gideon!! Help!
I have a Zi8 and I’m shooting a reality show pilot. I want to shoot the very best Video and Audio with it that can be used as “broadcast” quality for a small cable network. Is this possible? Especially with the Audio plug in? What exactly do you recommend I purchase for the audio part (mics, mixer, etc). I need to record with at least two mics in a scene or a boom-type device. I know this is a lot to ask, but can you tell me what to get and will it be good enough for a cable tv network? Thanks!!!
Hmmm. I think think if you want to shoot broadcast quality video for TV, you may need a broadcast quality video camera for TV. The Zi8 will do an ok job, but it will never be as good as the broadcast video cameras.
In saying that though, you can get some pretty darn good results with just the Zi8 or the Flip Ultra HD, especially when you consider how affordable they are. And when you use my solution for the sound, or something similar, the end result can be really beautiful.
Have you downloaded my report yet? I reveal what I use there…
http://www.RapidVideoBlogging.com
Gideon
[..YouTube..] This was the best camera review i have seen on YouTube ever! Thanks! And i just wanted to say that converting MOV files is one of the worst decisions i’ve ever made. You loose 25% quality always and it always darkens the image. Thought i’d let you all in on that. Can’t wait to get my Flip Ultra!
[..YouTube..] i have got the kodak and i have to say u would have to be an idiot to not be able to figure out what stuff does… it has five buttons and took me like two minutes in the crar
[..YouTube..] @JayHyphenMichael Sounds like you will be doing a lot more converting. The Flip Ultra saves files as mp4.
[..YouTube..] I am a video professional and have owned both a Kodak ZI6 and a Flip Ultra HD. I will make your decision easy. DON’T BUY THE FLIP!
It is an expensive piece of shit. Most editing programs can’t edit mp4. Also, the flip customer service is worthless. Also, most people, myself included, have problems with the battery.
Don’t buy the Flip.
[..YouTube..] hehe he said zed. =3
[..YouTube..] Very helpful…thanks!
[..YouTube..] Question – Do you need any class of SD card for the HD video files for uploading them onto your computer?
[..YouTube..] the only thing that i love with kodak zi8 is that, it has an external mic port. hmm?
disadv of zi8: the batteries, vid file format
dsadv of flip ultra: the port for external mic, 8gb max of memory.
is there any other camcorder u can suggest that has external mic port?
—thnx for the reviews—
[..YouTube..] @wilsvlog The new Flip has a port where you can plug things into. For example, you can plug in the Mikey from Blue Microphones which then allows you to plug in an external mic. Really cool – I am getting one soon!
Gideon Shalwick
[..YouTube..] @GideonShalwick wat model is that?
[..YouTube..] Do you know any other digital camera or point and shoot camera with an exteral mic jack, that shoots in HD?
Help plz!!
[..YouTube..] @rockin4shred The Vado from Creative (3rd generation) is pretty good too – has an ext mic jack and some other nice features, and the quality is pretty good too. Similar price range…
Gideon Shalwick
[..YouTube..] Great review, extremely helpful. I’m going with the flip. Thanks
Can the Kodak Zi8 upload to youtube, without killing the quality, because I was reading youtube does not like .mov files. For simply youtube purposes, is the Flip or Zi8 going to give me better output? Thanks!
Shane
YouTube accepts various file formats including mov. In fact, I only ever upload mov files!
The videos from the Zi8 should be just fine
You may wanna check out my export settings here:
http://gideonshalwick.com/online-video-export-settings/
Gideon
[..YouTube..] @poolboyinla A “video professional”? LOL. Go back to cleaning pools and sucking cock.
Hi. I have a few questions about the lenses of the cameras. In a review a read elsewhere of the zi8, the reviewer said the zi8 could not focus from 15″ to 39″. In addition, I saw the specs of the Flip that said it can focus from 1.5m to infinity. 1.5m = 59″ which is almost five feet. Does that mean the Flip can’t focus on anything that is less than five feet away? That doesn’t sound right to me. I have been leaning towards buying the zi8 but have been considering the Flip if the Flip because, like I said, the Kodak can’t focus on anything between 15″ and 39″ Anyway, I’m still a bit confused so I’d like to know from you what you think about this issue. Thanks a lot!
Hi David
Basically… in general with cameras, the more you pay, the better camera you get!
With the Flip and Kodak cameras, while they are great, they do come with their own limitations.
I have not had any focus issues with the Flip as you described. What I always recommend is if you can go into the shop and test out the camera that you are researching, that always helps – just to make sure it does what you want it to do.
Gideon
[..YouTube..] For my own Opinion Kodak Zi8 win
Thanks for inviting me to comment. Indeed it is a very nice video. I used to own a Flip HD (first generation) but the software comes with it really screws up my PC. I think it was a bug that always corrupts some of the files. It ends up I sold it and replace with another camcorder. I never use Kodak but from what you share, I think I’ll go for Kodak for one very important reason – the external jack for stereo microphone. I think buying a good recorder for Flip can be a pain (in terms of costs).
[..YouTube..] @satancouldkillyounow ur making fun of poolboyinla’s name? Ur name is for cutters and anorexics! Go get a life loser!
[..YouTube..] Also I searched his name and he has a video “fishing for hummers” with almost a million views so go back to worshipping Satan
Hey Gideon,
I just read your rapid blogging report. It’s awesome. I learned so much from it. Especially about the you tube channel.
Quick question:
(1) Like you, I have a mac. I’m just launching a video blog. What’s the default recording in the kodak zi8? I mean there are 2 -3 options in there. 1080, 720?
(2) Do you think this theme is good for video blogging: http://www.wpzoom.com/themes/videozoom/?
Best regards,
Anesh, Dubai
Hi Anesh
For YouTube, I just normally record in 720p. But as broadband improves around the world, the larger settings will become more and more popular. But for my purposes, 720p is just fine.
I am on my iphone now so can’t check out the theme… but as long as the theme allows you to display your videos well, there should not be any issues.
Of course, I do recommend the Thesis theme – there is a link inside my report – because of it’s superior SEO capabilities.
Gideon
[..YouTube..] Quite unrelated question:
How do you make your camcorder to focus on your face, and not on the background?
Is it a feature of your camcorder? Or is it a specific kind of lens for a specific focal point?
I am using a Canon Vixia HF-S100 to record some tutorial videos, and I want to have the same effect.
Thanks.
[..YouTube..] @myok1234 You need the right camcorder and lens. The one I used for this shoot was the Canon T2i 55D (Rebel) with a 50mm 1:1.8 lens. That gives you that nice depth of field look.
Gideon Shalwick
[..YouTube..] wat did u use to video tape this video
[..YouTube..] what did you use to record this video?
[..YouTube..] This is a ridiculous review. The reviewer’s opinion on the cameras seems biased to the point where it could be considered trolling. Having more options than four buttons can be “confusing?” Many of the categories were clearly weighed in the direction of the Flip camera even when the Kodak was clearly better. This removed all credibility and made him look like a dumbass.
[..YouTube..] @unspecialfish you are right – I am biased
– although, there is nothing in it for me, the Flip is really just what I like to use personally. I’ve tried the Kodak, but it’s not as nice to use (for me). But I am sure others will disagree… as is expected. Thanks for your input though.
Gideon Shalwick
[..YouTube..] this guy really loves the flip..I think the kodak is soo much better.
[..YouTube..] which one has better image stabilization?
[..YouTube..] @TheMaddenBeast The Flip Ultra HD – especially the new version that has just come out…
Gideon Shalwick
[..YouTube..] @hoosier9009 lol – it depends on what you’re using it for. Technically, I think the Kodak is better yes, but for simplicity, I really like the Flip Ultra HD
Gideon Shalwick
Very nice comparison of two great products. While you prefer the Flip HD, you use a separate recording device for audio. That would be a BIG drawback to me because you need to sync the lip movements with the sound in editing, which is not easy to do, unless you have some trick up your sleeve that you haven’t told us about.
Would put together a short video on how you sync the audio and video?
[..YouTube..] how would u compare the two in price.
[..YouTube..] If mine will stay on the tripod 99% of the time would the older model have a better picture? Seems like the reviews mostly say the new model compresses the file a lot more to get the 60fps and image stabilization. The reviews on youtube show the new one doesn’t do as well in low light but not a concern. I’m buying a 3rd gen ultra hd or old one soon.
I was thinking the Kodak but they seem to show red as orange on the videos I’ve watched on youtube anyway.
Hello Gideon, I’m glad I found your blog! I was doing a search for remote controls for the Flip when I came across your site. I too went with the Flip Ultra HD for many of the reasons you bring up your review. I was lucky enough to find one on Craiglist, brand new still in the box for $120.
I wanted a decent camera for recording personal videos and other short videos and the webcam I have just looked terrible after compression. The Flip works great and having it produce to MP4 was critical. I use Easy Video Player and Camtasia 7 and this makes my life SO much easier.
Before I was using a Panasonic digital camera and it too saved to the smart card in .mov format. What a pain! I had to convert the video first to another format just to work with it and the audio was always out of sync with the video when I would upload it.
Thanks for a great blog and I’m looking forward to reading your Rapid Video Blogging report. Keep up the great job!
Greg
Hi Gideon,
First of all – wow. You have the most detailed info in your free videos – thank you for sharing!
One question for you … do you use a video monitor while you record? You seem like you do because you are always looking right into the camera and seem like you have pretty good control over your facial expressions.
I just talk from the heart
Gideon
Cute. :0)
so … are you just staring at the camera lense? Or do you have a screen you’re looking while you’re “talking from the heart”?
Hey Jason
I look straight into the lens of the camera.
When I was just getting started, I used to use a teleprompter, but that made me feel a bit like a robot. Then I switched over to just a mindmap overview of what I wanted to talk about, printed it out and stuck it right below the camera for reference.
But more often than not these days, before I record the video, I will get very clear on what I want to say, and then I just “talk from the heart” and see what happens. Sometimes I have to record it more than once to get the essence of the message right
Gideon
Thanks for that!
You are a very unique person – you offer great info for free and you answer techie questions.
Most ‘Gurus’ I’ve noticed only respond to “you are so amazing – I want to be like you” type of comments. ;0)
Keep up the good work – and thanks again for sharing.
Thanks, I was unsure which to buy for my 10 year old for christmas, but I liked the idea of the Flip. It sounds like it would be the best buy for her after watching your blog
Thanks again
Lynne
[..YouTube..] I have the Kodak Zi8 already. Which mic do you recommend for it?
[..YouTube..] Well with kodak you got the option to record longer footage, that’s usually a big plus for most people so kodak should of gotten the win, you got me a bit confuse when you said ultrahd won that round, but yea flip ultra hd is more easy to use and are very good for beginners!
[..YouTube..] Thanx I am trying to decide if the Kodak is worth buying since it is on sale for only 100 bucks!!
[..YouTube..] @GideonShalwick which one is the new version of the flip called
[..YouTube..] Not taking into account external mics, what is better for straight up sound quality?
[..YouTube..] Come an.. The Kodak Zi8 is really easy to use!
[..YouTube..] @unspecialfish I totally agree with you. This was a very biased review and he clearly works for Cisco. The Kodak is a more superior camera to the Flip by a long margin. The funniest part was how he preferred the limited Flip with its limited storage capacity. haha Yeah ok buddy, we believe you lol
[..YouTube..] @unspecialfish I totally agree with you. This was a very biased review and he clearly works for Cisco. The Kodak is a more superior camera to the Flip by a long margin. The funniest part was how he preferred the Flip with its limited storage capacity. haha Yeah ok buddy, we believe you lol
@unspecialfish I totally agree with you. This was a very biased review and he clearly works for Cisco. The Kodak is a more superior camera to the Flip by a long margin. The funniest part was how he preferred the Flip with its limited storage capacity. haha Yeah ok buddy, we believe you lol
[..YouTube..] Nice comparison. A few points though. You said that the Zi8 was a bit more complicated. The Flip had 4 buttons but the Kodak only has 5 and when you power on, it only asks what resolution to film at. I think you were a little bit biased there. Also, regarding batteries, you can get a second battery pack and an external charger, or what I just got, the “Revive solar battery pack”. Holds an extra charge and if you’re really stuck can charge your battery by solar. It was $30 on Amazon. Good review!
Nice comparison. A few points though. You said that the Zi8 was a bit more complicated. The Flip had 4 buttons but the Kodak only has 5 and when you power on, it only asks what resolution to film at. I think you were a little bit biased there. Also, regarding batteries, you can get a second battery pack and an external charger, or what I just got, the “Revive solar battery pack”. Holds an extra charge and if you’re really stuck can charge your battery by solar. It was $30 on Amazon. Good review!
[..YouTube..] Most of these reviewers make no comparisons of the ZOOM levels. The Flip zoom is weak.
[..YouTube..] Nice review, you’re a natural at product reviews! Though as a Zi8 user, I was confused as to why you prefer the flip when it seemed to win most of the categories and took me 10 minutes to figure out. I was just given a Flip cam so I’ll be able to make my own comparison too.
At 4:33 you said flip but didn’t you mean to say the Zi8 was bettter in that category?
Look and feel is subjective but important. The battery issue is legit. The Zi8 is now $100!!! I bought a second one.
Most of these reviewers make no comparisons of the ZOOM levels. The Flip zoom is weak.
Nice review, you’re a natural at product reviews! Though as a Zi8 user, I was confused as to why you prefer the flip when it seemed to win most of the categories and took me 10 minutes to figure out. I was just given a Flip cam so I’ll be able to make my own comparison too.
At 4:33 you said flip but didn’t you mean to say the Zi8 was bettter in that category?
Look and feel is subjective but important. The battery issue is legit. The Zi8 is now $100!!! I bought a second one.
i made a newsletter cause of you…i use all ur tips from the pdf
[..YouTube..] this sucks. the kodak is thinner and easier to drop? what the hell? and oh yeah the flip wins bc it only can hold 8gb to the camrea when the kodak can hold up to 32gb on sd card when the card doesnt make the camrea more difficult to use. and oh a whopping 1 or 2 more buttons make it so much harder to use! obviously just like the flip camrea
He is absolutely right about the dropping part.
Reason being if you are in an outdoor location it DOES matter to have a sturdy camera with a solid hand grip which the flip offers.
As far as the SD card is concerned, The Kodak offers 32 gigs all right but that is an external component as there can be several problems of optimization and sometimes even reading problems. Since a SD card is something you buy yourself, some SD cards also require separate softwares to run thus complicating the whole thing up.
As far as your point about buttons is concerned. The review is made concerning the average user. Some people (or rather most people) might not have a problem with the buttons and some will. Since the category was ease of use so the Flip wins.
It was a comparative statement not a retort that the kodak isn’t easy to use.
And yes, at the end Gideon did say that the both are more or less the same.
this sucks. the kodak is thinner and easier to drop? what the hell? and oh yeah the flip wins bc it only can hold 8gb to the camrea when the kodak can hold up to 32gb on sd card when the card doesnt make the camrea more difficult to use. and oh a whopping 1 or 2 more buttons make it so much harder to use! obviously just like the flip camrea
[..YouTube..] Nice work Gideon! You’re quite the natural on camera. But I agree with some of the sentiments stated here about the love for the flip.
Btw, what did you film this with?
Nice work Gideon! You’re quite the natural on camera. But I agree with some of the sentiments stated here about the love for the flip.
Btw, what did you film this with?
Hi Gideon, Loved your video on the camera comparisons – so-o-oo useful! I would like to know if you can video yourself easily. I am currently using an Ipod camera, and it is difficult to line it up to get me in the picture. Also it cannot be put on a tripod so has to be held in the hand, and that means very closeup!!
Do the cameras you reviewed have a swivel screen so you can see what part of your face is on the screen?
Thanks again, Joan
So you record audio seperately when using the Canon, but what about when using the Zi8? What about plugging a field mixer to the Zi8 – are there any issues?
I own a Zi8 and use it for all my videos, even though I could shoot with my Pentax Kx, and I have dabbled with recording audio seperately but just cannot get the audio synched properly with Power Director. Is it easy to synch the audio with Sony Vegas Studio HD?
[..YouTube..] @GideonShalwick
i like ur review and think that you are not biased about the product
@GideonShalwick
i like ur review and think that you are not biased about the product
[..YouTube..] I would have loved for you to go into the extra features the Kodak has. I don’t like the zoom on Flip or that it doesn’t have a light. Does the Kodak?
I would have loved for you to go into the extra features the Kodak has. I don’t like the zoom on Flip or that it doesn’t have a light. Does the Kodak?
Hey Gideon,
Good review. But one point you never discussed pricing of the cameras. Mind giving an insight into that, Otherwise awesome review.
Coming to the format issue. That’s quite basic, The Kodak records in a .mov format which is a apple quicktime movie. Not only does it have format issues with Vegas it also has rendering issues, A quicktime movie is not so comfortable sitting on a PC, However on a mac it”s a charm. So the flip is more universal recording in a .mp4 format.
One more thing to note is that the .mp4 format can be uploaded directly onto websites while the .mov format has issues (personal experience).
Otherwise performance wise both are a jewel and yes , Gideon the final render quality in nearly the same.
Cheers,
Arjun Narain
Hi Gideon….As per your video you mentioned using some form of power microphone to plug into your external voice recorder…where can I pick up a power microphone and what exactly is a power microphone?
Thank you for such awesome content!!!
[..YouTube..] how much did the flip pay you ?
how much did the flip pay you ?
[..YouTube..] great review!
I was looking for a HD camera myself for you tube video’s.
You helped me allot, thanx.
Keep up the good work.
Cheerz.
great review!
I was looking for a HD camera myself for you tube video’s.
You helped me allot, thanx.
Keep up the good work.
Cheerz.
[..YouTube..] Is it still worth buying the Zi8 now or are there newer “good value” pocket cancorders out today?
Is it still worth buying the Zi8 now or are there newer “good value” pocket cancorders out today?
[..YouTube..] @basketball16468,
The new version of the Flip UltraHD has the same name: Flip UltraHD. To make sure you are getting the newest version, you have to look for “3rd generation” or U32120B (U32120W for the white version).
@basketball16468,
The new version of the Flip UltraHD has the same name: Flip UltraHD. To make sure you are getting the newest version, you have to look for “3rd generation” or U32120B (U32120W for the white version).
[..YouTube..] what camera ur using in this video to record it.
what camera ur using in this video to record it.
[..YouTube..] @lovesubscribers I used a Canon T2i for this one. But if you look at my older videos, I just used the Flip Ultra HD. The Canon T2i or other similar DSLR cameras are awesome, but they also do have their drawbacks. Eg, HUGE learning curve, more expensive than Flip or Kodak, and they only record for about 12 min max at a time. So, it’s not a beginner type of video camera
@lovesubscribers I used a Canon T2i for this one. But if you look at my older videos, I just used the Flip Ultra HD. The Canon T2i or other similar DSLR cameras are awesome, but they also do have their drawbacks. Eg, HUGE learning curve, more expensive than Flip or Kodak, and they only record for about 12 min max at a time. So, it’s not a beginner type of video camera
[..YouTube..] @Kiasko Zi8 still great, but apparently the new Kodak is even better – I have not tested it though so I cant say for sure.
@Kiasko Zi8 still great, but apparently the new Kodak is even better – I have not tested it though so I cant say for sure.
[..YouTube..] @ejtiprost Flip paid me nothing. But maybe they should have, given all the flack I am getting for having them as my personal preference lol!
@ejtiprost Flip paid me nothing. But maybe they should have, given all the flack I am getting for having them as my personal preference lol!
Hey Gideon
Cheers for the tip on the separate recording device, I use Kodak playsport because I like to film around water a lot. Being that I have already dropped my JVC 835 in the water, the waterproof option for me is a necessity!
Gideon – press on – flack will come – bless those that curse you pray for those that dispitfully use you.
Do any of them allow you to get a blurry background?
[..YouTube..] Do any of them allow you to get a blurry background?
does it a have good focus on up close things? like good macro
[..YouTube..] does it a have good focus on up close things? like good macro
I used a Kodak Zi8 & Flip UltraHD in this video.
Title: Laura Cheadle Live On The Radio
flip all the way!!!!
what’s the price comparison?
what’s the price comparison?
what’s the price comparison?
what’s the price comparison?
[..YouTube..] what’s the price comparison?
what’s the price comparison?
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
[..YouTube..] I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !
The Zi8 wins for me.
The only problem is the sound with a mono mic. (stereo not appropriate for single voice recording) which only records on one side (left).
I get hiss and noise on the other channle (right) which is easy to remove but an unnecessary step in the process.
I’m working on a solution….
And with the Flip….the most annoying thing is the recharge problem which seems to happen to 1,000s of people! It’s ALL OVER Flip forums on the net!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
[..YouTube..] do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
[..YouTube..] The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.
My friend got a flip and kinda topped the digital camera we used. Then I bought the Zi8(hadnt heard of it yet) but it seemed to me like the Kodak is better, he was right about the Flip being able to stand up. But the microphone option is awesome! To me the Kodak is better for making longer more important videos, but the Flip would be good for just vlogging or making a quick fun video.
My friend got a flip and kinda topped the digital camera we used. Then I bought the Zi8(hadnt heard of it yet) but it seemed to me like the Kodak is better, he was right about the Flip being able to stand up. But the microphone option is awesome! To me the Kodak is better for making longer more important videos, but the Flip would be good for just vlogging or making a quick fun video.
My friend got a flip and kinda topped the digital camera we used. Then I bought the Zi8(hadnt heard of it yet) but it seemed to me like the Kodak is better, he was right about the Flip being able to stand up. But the microphone option is awesome! To me the Kodak is better for making longer more important videos, but the Flip would be good for just vlogging or making a quick fun video.
My friend got a flip and kinda topped the digital camera we used. Then I bought the Zi8(hadnt heard of it yet) but it seemed to me like the Kodak is better, he was right about the Flip being able to stand up. But the microphone option is awesome! To me the Kodak is better for making longer more important videos, but the Flip would be good for just vlogging or making a quick fun video.
My friend got a flip and kinda topped the digital camera we used. Then I bought the Zi8(hadnt heard of it yet) but it seemed to me like the Kodak is better, he was right about the Flip being able to stand up. But the microphone option is awesome! To me the Kodak is better for making longer more important videos, but the Flip would be good for just vlogging or making a quick fun video.
My friend got a flip and kinda topped the digital camera we used. Then I bought the Zi8(hadnt heard of it yet) but it seemed to me like the Kodak is better, he was right about the Flip being able to stand up. But the microphone option is awesome! To me the Kodak is better for making longer more important videos, but the Flip would be good for just vlogging or making a quic